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Dire Wolf, Dark Hollow, It Must Have Been The Roses, Cassidy, I've Been All Around This World, Monkey & The Engineer, China Doll, Heaven Help The Fool, Bird Song-> Ripple Alabama Getaway-> Greatest Story Ever Told, Friend Of The Devil, Me & My Uncle-> Mexicali Blues, Candyman, Little Red Rooster, Tennessee Jed-> Let It Grow-> The Wheel-> The Music Never Stopped Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet-> Terrapin Station-> Playin' In The Band-> Drums-> I Need A Miracle-> Uncle John's Band-> Morning Dew-> Playin' In The Band-> Good Lovin', E: U.S. Blues, E: Brokedown Palace
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Set 1 and encores: unknown audience> ?> CDR> EAC> SHN; Sets 2,3: SBD> MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via Tony Gardner, with thanks to Paul Bottiglio, Mario Mancilla; update to Tony's previous shn set, his comments: "I found another source for the acoustic set and called it disc 0. encores are added on disc 3. I cut about two minutes of silence from the end of disc 1 and 2, no other changes"; see info file for more comments
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Reviewer:
Stellablu122
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January 23, 2022
Subject: Massive epic in its scope and execution.
Subject: Massive epic in its scope and execution.
In a concert that capped a 15 show residency at the Warfield with a 4 hour swan song is epic and unlike anything else in GD history. Clearly a loving
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nod back to their inception at the Acid Tests.
As an avid taper this show had eluded me up until the other day. The show, like many from this run and RCMH were never put into trader circulation back in the 1980's and 1990's, After listening to in its entirety- and not to diminish the wealth of detailed reviews below. I will add
the following comments.
As was typical of this run-and RCMH, the acoustic first set far surpasses the electric first set this one. The band brings much more energy to the pieces during the acoustic set. This is perfectly exemplified by the stunning Cassidy-which is both nimble and explosive. The rest of this set continues in that same sprit with a majestic To Lay me Down> Ripple to close out the set.
As with many first sets from 1980 it is more about precision and execution- clearly the results of all the rehashing they did with Brent, that the music is wonderfully played but lacks that x-factor, that would become much more consistent after 1981 through 1985, is missing until the Let it Grow> Wheel> Music Never Stopped. Yes, this is a loving nod back to the summer of 1976 and it is really good with the bookends far surpassing the Wheel-which sadly is played at a lethargic tempo.
The second set starts with only the second pairing of Scarlet> Fire of this entire 15 show run, and is technically perfect- both Bobby and Jerry have wonderful tone during this period, but it is nothing earth-shattering. Again it is more about sonic perfection and not missing a note then reckless psychedelic abandonment. I would make the case that recoding all nights on 24 tracks may have been looming to get the best possible playing -as two live albums, and a movie would be produced and released from these 23 shows.
Things improve for Estimated Prophet, which is a flawless version-with Bobby displaying restraint on his soon to become infamous 1980's screams. The rendition conjures up that early 1977 vibe on the short but very good jam into Terrapin. Jerry's envelope filter sounds amazing through Tiger.
Now the Terrapin is simply way too slow in tempo and it is a great disservice as this version will almost put you to sleep. There is not epic coda at the end either. The band continues on with a really good PITB which begins a wonderful journey back to early 1974-with a slight diversion back to 1977.
The PITB is cut at about the seven minutes mark and the drums and some Phil rumbling pick up as it drifts into a short space which transition into a strong Miracle, which sequences next into really good-although a rather short, Uncle John's Band. What makes it too short in the end jam that is simply not there but then to drop into the fourth Morning Dew of the year. Which I am sure was a wonderful choice and treat for those in attendance.
This Morning Dew won't be on anyone's top ten list, as it is couple minutes shorter where it needs to be but is beautifully played and Jerry's vocals are top notch. The continue stroll through 1974 continues with a tight PITB reprise before closing the set with a rousing Good Lovin'- the one tip of the hat to Pig Pen on this marathon evening.
Then the second double encore of the run, begins with rocking final toast with a cranked up U.S. Blues, followed by a second call to the stage for a poetic- but achingly slow, Brokedown Palace.
Happy Trails.
As an avid taper this show had eluded me up until the other day. The show, like many from this run and RCMH were never put into trader circulation back in the 1980's and 1990's, After listening to in its entirety- and not to diminish the wealth of detailed reviews below. I will add
the following comments.
As was typical of this run-and RCMH, the acoustic first set far surpasses the electric first set this one. The band brings much more energy to the pieces during the acoustic set. This is perfectly exemplified by the stunning Cassidy-which is both nimble and explosive. The rest of this set continues in that same sprit with a majestic To Lay me Down> Ripple to close out the set.
As with many first sets from 1980 it is more about precision and execution- clearly the results of all the rehashing they did with Brent, that the music is wonderfully played but lacks that x-factor, that would become much more consistent after 1981 through 1985, is missing until the Let it Grow> Wheel> Music Never Stopped. Yes, this is a loving nod back to the summer of 1976 and it is really good with the bookends far surpassing the Wheel-which sadly is played at a lethargic tempo.
The second set starts with only the second pairing of Scarlet> Fire of this entire 15 show run, and is technically perfect- both Bobby and Jerry have wonderful tone during this period, but it is nothing earth-shattering. Again it is more about sonic perfection and not missing a note then reckless psychedelic abandonment. I would make the case that recoding all nights on 24 tracks may have been looming to get the best possible playing -as two live albums, and a movie would be produced and released from these 23 shows.
Things improve for Estimated Prophet, which is a flawless version-with Bobby displaying restraint on his soon to become infamous 1980's screams. The rendition conjures up that early 1977 vibe on the short but very good jam into Terrapin. Jerry's envelope filter sounds amazing through Tiger.
Now the Terrapin is simply way too slow in tempo and it is a great disservice as this version will almost put you to sleep. There is not epic coda at the end either. The band continues on with a really good PITB which begins a wonderful journey back to early 1974-with a slight diversion back to 1977.
The PITB is cut at about the seven minutes mark and the drums and some Phil rumbling pick up as it drifts into a short space which transition into a strong Miracle, which sequences next into really good-although a rather short, Uncle John's Band. What makes it too short in the end jam that is simply not there but then to drop into the fourth Morning Dew of the year. Which I am sure was a wonderful choice and treat for those in attendance.
This Morning Dew won't be on anyone's top ten list, as it is couple minutes shorter where it needs to be but is beautifully played and Jerry's vocals are top notch. The continue stroll through 1974 continues with a tight PITB reprise before closing the set with a rousing Good Lovin'- the one tip of the hat to Pig Pen on this marathon evening.
Then the second double encore of the run, begins with rocking final toast with a cranked up U.S. Blues, followed by a second call to the stage for a poetic- but achingly slow, Brokedown Palace.
Happy Trails.
Reviewer:
happytrails
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March 17, 2020
Subject: But BarryBee
Subject: But BarryBee
Here you are still hanging around!
Kudos... I caught on a year later and didn't find another distraction of merit for 20 years. Nice sentiment, I get the ... feeling that everyone got familiar if not out right friendly.
Thanks for the memory, and I wasn't even there!
Kudos... I caught on a year later and didn't find another distraction of merit for 20 years. Nice sentiment, I get the ... feeling that everyone got familiar if not out right friendly.
Thanks for the memory, and I wasn't even there!
Reviewer:
BarryBee
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October 5, 2018
Subject: It changed for me on this night
Subject: It changed for me on this night
I had been to a bunch of the Warfield shows, driving up from LA on the day of shows and ill-advisedly driving back for school when the show was over.
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These shows were intimate gatherings and this last night was the most so. Bob's birthday was two days away and my friends Brought him a cake and we all sang Happy Birthday. I danced with the spinners in the lobby for Music Never Stopped and walked to the stage for Miracle. I was 2 feet from Jerry (there was no rail) for UJB 'til the end. We all kind of knew each other and the security by his point and everything was very friendly. You cannot hear this on the tapes and only those who were there will understand this sentiment. The Dead would dominate the next few years of my life until I became addicted to other things and had to give up traveling to shows. Then I got sober and got a job. This was the beginning of a very special couple of years for me, really ending with Dark Star NYE 81-82.
Reviewer:
indigo_child44
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January 30, 2018
Subject: Great set list, average playing
Subject: Great set list, average playing
The acoustic set is good, although the sound quality is from an AUD. Thankfully it switches to a SBD for the electric sets.
The first set was pretty ... boring in my opinion. It seems as if they’re playing on autopilot. The ending sequence is pretty awesome though, definitely worth a listen.
The second set gets better. I thought the scarlet fire was lackluster, it just seemed uninspired. The Estimated and Terrapin are both good, but nothing amazing. I really enjoyed the Playin though. Everything that follows Drums Space is good, again nothing amazing but still solid Dead.
All in all, this is a good show for 1980 and you should at least check out the second set for sure.
The first set was pretty ... boring in my opinion. It seems as if they’re playing on autopilot. The ending sequence is pretty awesome though, definitely worth a listen.
The second set gets better. I thought the scarlet fire was lackluster, it just seemed uninspired. The Estimated and Terrapin are both good, but nothing amazing. I really enjoyed the Playin though. Everything that follows Drums Space is good, again nothing amazing but still solid Dead.
All in all, this is a good show for 1980 and you should at least check out the second set for sure.
Reviewer:
jjg4762
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October 13, 2014
Subject: end of music
Subject: end of music
Check out how at the end of music Bobby try's to bring it back to Let it Grow. Its a good 2 minutes of him trying to get Jerry to notice.
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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March 14, 2012 (edited)
Subject: Famous champagne show
This is the final of the 15 San Fran shows (15th of the 25 Fall '80 monster shows in San Fran>New Orleans>NYC). It's also in the top 5 of these ... shows. I'm surprised there are complaints about these runs; they seem to be of two types:
*They repeated too many songs
*The format was too different
Yes, if you did 15 shows in a row, then you got beaucoup repeats. Try 15 shows in, say '68 or '72. The format was intentionally different. The band wanted some style agitation and thought it would be fun to have an intimate setting, fomenting tighter songs. It wasn't an Arista aquiescence. One of the working ideas was a 15-year mark, special reward for the fans.
First Set. Like many of this run, the acoustic set surpasses even '70 acoustic sets. Outta the gate, Dire Wolf & Dark Hollow are A+ versions. The rest is consistent; above average for the Warfield shows, a specialness in the air.
Second Set. Decent start but really heats up from Friend of the Devil all the way through Little Red Rooster - particularly M&MU and a great Candyman. Then it hits outright X-factor with Let it Grow>Wheel>Music Never Stopped (the latter uptempo and sparkly). These just might be their best examples from the tour.
Third Set. Still on top of it - one of the best of '80. Unlike the second set, which keeps getting better, the 3rd is like the 1st set - best right out of the gate (well, really at Fire), but above average throughout. The jam into Terrapin and the first Playin' jam are worth the penny. Then Graham served champagne to the entire audience so they could toast the boys.
1st set: B-
2nd set: A-
3rd set: B+
Overall = 4¼ stars
Highlights:
Dire Wolf - Very warmed up on this one at this point
Dark Hollow - many good examples from the shows
Little Red Rooster - '80 was a good year in general for Roosty
Let it Grow>The Wheel>The Music Never Stopped - wish the whole sequence was officially released
Fire on the Mountain - Scarlet's not bad but the Fire is nice
Estimated Prophet - strong
U.S. Blues>Brokedown Palace - great care taken to not throwaway the encores
SOURCES: Four of the acoustic songs are on Reckoning, (China Doll, All Around this World) however Bird Song has a 37sec edit right before the solo, and Cassidy has 1:06 removed from the solo @3:54. Music Never Stopped is on So Many Roads. Use the Stanley/Blackwood source for the first two acoustic songs. The rest of the 1st set (+ Alabama) is best on the Ellner/Marino(GMB) source. The best SBD souce for the electric sets is currently Gardner3576 (albeit needing NR in places). The current matrix is echoey, thumpy & more AUD than SBD. You have to go back to the AUDs though, for the double encore. In the 2nd set, sound improves again @Little Red Rooster (which has a beginning cut).
CAVEAT: They're not all 5 stars just 'cause we love the band. The Dead played over 2,300 shows; on a bell curve a hundred might be 1-star and maybe 100 are 5-star shows. Shows were awesome. You were life-happy by the time you and thousands of your new buddies skipped and floated out into Shakedown Street. Highlight moments forced you to either reel your mind back or just snip the tether - and cosmic moments didn't occur only inside the show. But that happened even at what are objectively 1-star shows. If you rate every show 5-stars but have no idea what constitutes a 2-star show, it renders the rating system untenable and nobody believes your reviews.
Bucky, these were full, two-electric-set shows. They just had a bonus acoustic set first, and took place in an upscale, downtown vaudeville theater (this was before the seats were removed; you've seen both the run poster and the famed champagne-toast pic) next door to the Crazy Horse. Shit, this one's 35 songs and lasted over 4 hours! That's wasteful?
Glen, plus-one on your story 'cause it put me at the shows. I watched pretty blue-gold skirted spinners in the lobby, whiffed patchouli, weaved tracers in time with my hands aloft & smeared onto the grouphead dynamic. The Cosmic Wimpout story is funny. Truthiness: people did that at runs all through the 80s, too.
Subject: Famous champagne show
This is the final of the 15 San Fran shows (15th of the 25 Fall '80 monster shows in San Fran>New Orleans>NYC). It's also in the top 5 of these ... shows. I'm surprised there are complaints about these runs; they seem to be of two types:
*They repeated too many songs
*The format was too different
Yes, if you did 15 shows in a row, then you got beaucoup repeats. Try 15 shows in, say '68 or '72. The format was intentionally different. The band wanted some style agitation and thought it would be fun to have an intimate setting, fomenting tighter songs. It wasn't an Arista aquiescence. One of the working ideas was a 15-year mark, special reward for the fans.
First Set. Like many of this run, the acoustic set surpasses even '70 acoustic sets. Outta the gate, Dire Wolf & Dark Hollow are A+ versions. The rest is consistent; above average for the Warfield shows, a specialness in the air.
Second Set. Decent start but really heats up from Friend of the Devil all the way through Little Red Rooster - particularly M&MU and a great Candyman. Then it hits outright X-factor with Let it Grow>Wheel>Music Never Stopped (the latter uptempo and sparkly). These just might be their best examples from the tour.
Third Set. Still on top of it - one of the best of '80. Unlike the second set, which keeps getting better, the 3rd is like the 1st set - best right out of the gate (well, really at Fire), but above average throughout. The jam into Terrapin and the first Playin' jam are worth the penny. Then Graham served champagne to the entire audience so they could toast the boys.
1st set: B-
2nd set: A-
3rd set: B+
Overall = 4¼ stars
Highlights:
Dire Wolf - Very warmed up on this one at this point
Dark Hollow - many good examples from the shows
Little Red Rooster - '80 was a good year in general for Roosty
Let it Grow>The Wheel>The Music Never Stopped - wish the whole sequence was officially released
Fire on the Mountain - Scarlet's not bad but the Fire is nice
Estimated Prophet - strong
U.S. Blues>Brokedown Palace - great care taken to not throwaway the encores
SOURCES: Four of the acoustic songs are on Reckoning, (China Doll, All Around this World) however Bird Song has a 37sec edit right before the solo, and Cassidy has 1:06 removed from the solo @3:54. Music Never Stopped is on So Many Roads. Use the Stanley/Blackwood source for the first two acoustic songs. The rest of the 1st set (+ Alabama) is best on the Ellner/Marino(GMB) source. The best SBD souce for the electric sets is currently Gardner3576 (albeit needing NR in places). The current matrix is echoey, thumpy & more AUD than SBD. You have to go back to the AUDs though, for the double encore. In the 2nd set, sound improves again @Little Red Rooster (which has a beginning cut).
CAVEAT: They're not all 5 stars just 'cause we love the band. The Dead played over 2,300 shows; on a bell curve a hundred might be 1-star and maybe 100 are 5-star shows. Shows were awesome. You were life-happy by the time you and thousands of your new buddies skipped and floated out into Shakedown Street. Highlight moments forced you to either reel your mind back or just snip the tether - and cosmic moments didn't occur only inside the show. But that happened even at what are objectively 1-star shows. If you rate every show 5-stars but have no idea what constitutes a 2-star show, it renders the rating system untenable and nobody believes your reviews.
Bucky, these were full, two-electric-set shows. They just had a bonus acoustic set first, and took place in an upscale, downtown vaudeville theater (this was before the seats were removed; you've seen both the run poster and the famed champagne-toast pic) next door to the Crazy Horse. Shit, this one's 35 songs and lasted over 4 hours! That's wasteful?
Glen, plus-one on your story 'cause it put me at the shows. I watched pretty blue-gold skirted spinners in the lobby, whiffed patchouli, weaved tracers in time with my hands aloft & smeared onto the grouphead dynamic. The Cosmic Wimpout story is funny. Truthiness: people did that at runs all through the 80s, too.
Reviewer:
The TRUE Bucky
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September 23, 2011
Subject: A Few misconceptions
Subject: A Few misconceptions
@ Utah:
I agree with most of what you're saying about the recording of the live albums, but for 'Franklins being pulled out of Help/Slipknot'. This occurred ... not in 1980 for these albums, but way back in 1977 when the Dead stopped playing this suite of music for 6 years and simply played Franklins solo. It had nothing to do with cutting the music down to size.
While everybody seems to get 'excited' over these acoustic runs, the fact is, aside from being the base for breaking out some great material that had been shelved for years like China Doll, To Lay Me Down & Birdsong, the electric magic & musical peak the band was at coming off the recently completed summer tour~! and immediately returned to in Florida & the Fox Theatre over Thanksgiving & Long Beach several weeks later can only leave one imagining what 24 shows of electric musical adventure (as Phil would call it) would have been like at The Grateful Dead's peak of playing from 1977 to 1989. Instead, it was wasted on acoustic ditties. What a shame.
I agree with most of what you're saying about the recording of the live albums, but for 'Franklins being pulled out of Help/Slipknot'. This occurred ... not in 1980 for these albums, but way back in 1977 when the Dead stopped playing this suite of music for 6 years and simply played Franklins solo. It had nothing to do with cutting the music down to size.
While everybody seems to get 'excited' over these acoustic runs, the fact is, aside from being the base for breaking out some great material that had been shelved for years like China Doll, To Lay Me Down & Birdsong, the electric magic & musical peak the band was at coming off the recently completed summer tour~! and immediately returned to in Florida & the Fox Theatre over Thanksgiving & Long Beach several weeks later can only leave one imagining what 24 shows of electric musical adventure (as Phil would call it) would have been like at The Grateful Dead's peak of playing from 1977 to 1989. Instead, it was wasted on acoustic ditties. What a shame.
Reviewer:
Dylan M
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October 7, 2009
Subject: Let It Grow>Wheel>Music
Subject: Let It Grow>Wheel>Music
Nice Extra effort. I don't know how many 1st set Wheel's exist in the Brent era. Very few i'd imagine. Nice to see some extra effort, especially with the
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acoustic 1st set being extra effort already. Could have easily ended 2nd set w/Let it Grow. Warfield 10/1980 run in the shiz-nit!
Reviewer:
utah3
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December 19, 2007
Subject: Reality and rant
Subject: Reality and rant
The reality of thses shows and the Radio City shows was that the band was interested in recording a live album based on 2 releases. The acoustic and electric
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sides of the Dead. The acoustic stuff was great because we didn't have a point of reference to judge most of them by. With the electric sets, they were trying to be more compact and percise with the songs so they could turn these into "album sized" material.
They had signed with Arista in 77 and had not had much commercial success with Terrapin and Shakedown. So when Go to Heaven had some real success, Arista was pressuring the Dead to come through with some Live material for the next ones because they wanted to capitalize on the success of GTH.
They decided to do 2 releases acoustic and electric. The concept was great but when the Dead are trying to produce magic and not letting the free form flow it makes for a watered down experience. As they always said "we always blow it on the big stuff". The spontaneous nature was kind of scrapped for the more studio-like live experience.
Franklin was pulled out of the Help, Slipknot trio in an effort to commercialize it. Alabama, Althea, Lost and Saint were done constantly to provide listeners with live versions of the last studio album GTH. Just to site a few examples.
They have long admitted that trying this formula really didn't work almost alienating the live Head show goers in return for a broader appeal.
But the older I get listening to them now in 2007, I realized I had never given these shows much of a chance when I was much younger knowing the facts as I laid out for you here.
But you know what? These shows have really grown on me and actually are quite good if you just try and judge it on the finished product and realize the pressure they were under to make this work. They were re-inventing themselves again in 80 with a new keyboard sound and new vocalist in Brent and they didn't have time for him to learn all the older catalog until later.
I could go on and on and I have been doing this Dead thing since 1969 in Philly. My peers are always asking me when I will grow up and out of this Dead thing. HA! Let's hope that doesn't happen and that this community will continue to press on with catalogs and forums such as this. I love every minute of it!
I'm not trying to act like a know-it-all about this stuff, it's just that I lived it. I reference all historic shit in my life with tours and Dead memories. The hostage crisis in Iran, I was first row in Philly on 11/5/79 when I heard the news. I only attended Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kipper holidays if the Dead were not playing on those nights. It got to the point where my family knew if the Dead were less than 4 hours away on those days I would not be coming. Shit like that. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who know exactly what I mean.
I'm done.
They had signed with Arista in 77 and had not had much commercial success with Terrapin and Shakedown. So when Go to Heaven had some real success, Arista was pressuring the Dead to come through with some Live material for the next ones because they wanted to capitalize on the success of GTH.
They decided to do 2 releases acoustic and electric. The concept was great but when the Dead are trying to produce magic and not letting the free form flow it makes for a watered down experience. As they always said "we always blow it on the big stuff". The spontaneous nature was kind of scrapped for the more studio-like live experience.
Franklin was pulled out of the Help, Slipknot trio in an effort to commercialize it. Alabama, Althea, Lost and Saint were done constantly to provide listeners with live versions of the last studio album GTH. Just to site a few examples.
They have long admitted that trying this formula really didn't work almost alienating the live Head show goers in return for a broader appeal.
But the older I get listening to them now in 2007, I realized I had never given these shows much of a chance when I was much younger knowing the facts as I laid out for you here.
But you know what? These shows have really grown on me and actually are quite good if you just try and judge it on the finished product and realize the pressure they were under to make this work. They were re-inventing themselves again in 80 with a new keyboard sound and new vocalist in Brent and they didn't have time for him to learn all the older catalog until later.
I could go on and on and I have been doing this Dead thing since 1969 in Philly. My peers are always asking me when I will grow up and out of this Dead thing. HA! Let's hope that doesn't happen and that this community will continue to press on with catalogs and forums such as this. I love every minute of it!
I'm not trying to act like a know-it-all about this stuff, it's just that I lived it. I reference all historic shit in my life with tours and Dead memories. The hostage crisis in Iran, I was first row in Philly on 11/5/79 when I heard the news. I only attended Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kipper holidays if the Dead were not playing on those nights. It got to the point where my family knew if the Dead were less than 4 hours away on those days I would not be coming. Shit like that. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who know exactly what I mean.
I'm done.
Reviewer:
gleng1
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June 21, 2007
Subject: Learn Ye These Lessons:
Subject: Learn Ye These Lessons:
Pig, I understand!
Learn Ye These Lessons:
1. Set lists lie. (How many times have you heard an incredible show that had a boring set list, and vice-versa? ... Right!)
2. Tapes lie. (How many times have you been to an incredible show and then heard a tape of it that just doesn't tell the story, and vice-versa. Right, right!)
I was at the Warfield in '80 (I think I missed just one or two from the entire Warfield run).
Some random notes:
These were funny shows. I mean, the good news is that the Warfield is a small hall (especially compared to the hockey rinks and arenas the band had started to play) and the acoustic sets were a genuine treat. Even got to be an usher one night, although I can't remember exactly how that came about.
I think the bad news here (such as it is...) is that the hard-core deadheads (which at the time included me...) were trying to see every single show. (In spite of a lot of wacky passive-aggressive nonsense from the heads at the time: "Oh, you got in to tonight's show? I didn't get in -- I stood outside in the rain all night -- but I'm so happy that YOU were inside! If i had gotten a ticket, I would have given it to you.")
ANYWAY... the downside here (besides the challenge of actually trying to get in every night) is that the hard-core was waiting for magic every night, and my own opinion is that the Dead were looking more for the feeling of your local bar band -- you don't go every night; you drop in when you can for a relaxed time.
Because the theater is so nice, they were VERY strict on behavior -- no dancing in the aisles or seats. Bill Graham (bless his heart...) DID put up speakers in the hallways so we could dance AND hear, but that's always a funny choice -- there you are, standing in the light by the refreshment stand, dancing to the music coming out of some nice but tiny speakers while inside the real magic is taking place.
In addition they were making an album of this (Dead Set) and while it could certainly be my imagination, it sure FELT like they were working on a album -- the set list from night to night was very similar, and I couldn't help but feel when the umpteenth version of Terrapin or I Need A Miracle was played that it was basically, "OK, roll the tape -- take 7!"
On this, the last night of the Warfield run, the hardcore was expecting SERIOUS mojo (read: Dark Star or St. Stephen or...). One of the long-suffering tour-heads (Keith?) was wandering around with a handful of stickers from the old board game Cosmic Wimpout. "They better not wimpout tonight!" Sure enough, when the band started to play U.S. Blues he slowly started to peel the stickers off the roll and place them on the linen-covered walls before security grabbed him.
(I also seem to remember Bill Graham throwing two of the regular doseheads out of the show one night for fucking on the main staircase during the show! Luciano tried to stop him: "C'mon Bill -- she's fucked-up and he's just fucked!" but Bill was unswayed. "So? What am I supposed to do -- give them a medal?")
Even crazier, one or two people decided to skip this show entirely so they could start hitchhiking to New Orleans (two nights later) on the theory that it would be the first show the Dead had played in New Orleans since they were busted there years ago. ("Busted! Down in New Orleans! Set up...") and New Orleans would be THE show. (Skip a show so you can catch a show? Always a dubious strategy...)
One of my best memories of this run is how hard Bill Graham and company worked to make it special for everyone, including having a different message on the theater's marquee on most nights, so as you were walking out you would see something such as,
IF I KNEW THE WAY
I WOULD TAKE YOU HOME
All this wrapped around my odd efforts to be an '80s hippie/street person, before realizing that while I still loved the shows and would continue to go until the end, the space-doggie lifestyle was just not for me.
Glen
Learn Ye These Lessons:
1. Set lists lie. (How many times have you heard an incredible show that had a boring set list, and vice-versa? ... Right!)
2. Tapes lie. (How many times have you been to an incredible show and then heard a tape of it that just doesn't tell the story, and vice-versa. Right, right!)
I was at the Warfield in '80 (I think I missed just one or two from the entire Warfield run).
Some random notes:
These were funny shows. I mean, the good news is that the Warfield is a small hall (especially compared to the hockey rinks and arenas the band had started to play) and the acoustic sets were a genuine treat. Even got to be an usher one night, although I can't remember exactly how that came about.
I think the bad news here (such as it is...) is that the hard-core deadheads (which at the time included me...) were trying to see every single show. (In spite of a lot of wacky passive-aggressive nonsense from the heads at the time: "Oh, you got in to tonight's show? I didn't get in -- I stood outside in the rain all night -- but I'm so happy that YOU were inside! If i had gotten a ticket, I would have given it to you.")
ANYWAY... the downside here (besides the challenge of actually trying to get in every night) is that the hard-core was waiting for magic every night, and my own opinion is that the Dead were looking more for the feeling of your local bar band -- you don't go every night; you drop in when you can for a relaxed time.
Because the theater is so nice, they were VERY strict on behavior -- no dancing in the aisles or seats. Bill Graham (bless his heart...) DID put up speakers in the hallways so we could dance AND hear, but that's always a funny choice -- there you are, standing in the light by the refreshment stand, dancing to the music coming out of some nice but tiny speakers while inside the real magic is taking place.
In addition they were making an album of this (Dead Set) and while it could certainly be my imagination, it sure FELT like they were working on a album -- the set list from night to night was very similar, and I couldn't help but feel when the umpteenth version of Terrapin or I Need A Miracle was played that it was basically, "OK, roll the tape -- take 7!"
On this, the last night of the Warfield run, the hardcore was expecting SERIOUS mojo (read: Dark Star or St. Stephen or...). One of the long-suffering tour-heads (Keith?) was wandering around with a handful of stickers from the old board game Cosmic Wimpout. "They better not wimpout tonight!" Sure enough, when the band started to play U.S. Blues he slowly started to peel the stickers off the roll and place them on the linen-covered walls before security grabbed him.
(I also seem to remember Bill Graham throwing two of the regular doseheads out of the show one night for fucking on the main staircase during the show! Luciano tried to stop him: "C'mon Bill -- she's fucked-up and he's just fucked!" but Bill was unswayed. "So? What am I supposed to do -- give them a medal?")
Even crazier, one or two people decided to skip this show entirely so they could start hitchhiking to New Orleans (two nights later) on the theory that it would be the first show the Dead had played in New Orleans since they were busted there years ago. ("Busted! Down in New Orleans! Set up...") and New Orleans would be THE show. (Skip a show so you can catch a show? Always a dubious strategy...)
One of my best memories of this run is how hard Bill Graham and company worked to make it special for everyone, including having a different message on the theater's marquee on most nights, so as you were walking out you would see something such as,
IF I KNEW THE WAY
I WOULD TAKE YOU HOME
All this wrapped around my odd efforts to be an '80s hippie/street person, before realizing that while I still loved the shows and would continue to go until the end, the space-doggie lifestyle was just not for me.
Glen
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Burnt Rich
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June 14, 2007
Subject: Most WORTHLESS review yet!!!!
Subject: Most WORTHLESS review yet!!!!
Pigpen83....you officially win my award for the LOSER reviewer of the month club......sorry it can't please you--peak of popularity!!?? What in the...??
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If Jerry doesn't come back as the Messiah in another few years--are you gonna knock him for that, too??
This show is SOOOO GREAT!!!! The LIG>Wheel>Music Never Stopped is a real treat!!!! But come on, over 30 tunes in 1 night. Good night Irene!! Thanks for the effort on that one Good Ol' Grateful Dead!! For those looking for more jam--34 songs--think about it, THIS SHOW IS A MARATHON!! NOT A FIFTY YARD DASH!! SAVOR IT!!
Scarlet>Fire is jamming right now.. GRRRRR, BABY!
This show is SOOOO GREAT!!!! The LIG>Wheel>Music Never Stopped is a real treat!!!! But come on, over 30 tunes in 1 night. Good night Irene!! Thanks for the effort on that one Good Ol' Grateful Dead!! For those looking for more jam--34 songs--think about it, THIS SHOW IS A MARATHON!! NOT A FIFTY YARD DASH!! SAVOR IT!!
Scarlet>Fire is jamming right now.. GRRRRR, BABY!
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May 30, 2007
Subject: no jam???
Subject: no jam???
i dont know what that dude is talkin about but i hear much jam out in this show. perhaps they are not as far out as they were in the 70's but shit, for
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1980, heck even for any year of any band in time, this show is hot!!! not the best, but definitley put a smile on my face. big thank you to the Dead for being so kind.
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April 18, 2007
Subject: Forgot , to jam?
Subject: Forgot , to jam?
Even though 80 is not my favorite year, this show is an energetic gem. The second set closing jam (LIG>Wheel>Music) is just the sort of weirdness
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I love. I mean, c'mon, The Wheel that doesn't come out of Space? Estimated>Terrapin is pretty cool, too.
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PigPen83
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December 12, 2006
Subject: Grate List
Subject: Grate List
This show has an awsome set list. But it no wonder the dead were not at peak popularity around this time. The show has such potential, but Jerry and the
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rest of the gang are phoning this show in. Jerry doesn't quite speak the vocals but he doesn't sing them either. They apparently forget to jam this show. They don't lose a song to a jam and magically find it again as only the dead can do... the simply play them... They just lack the usual soul.... great set list ruined....
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L. Rosley
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October 6, 2006
Subject: Solid 4
Subject: Solid 4
Enjoyable show, solid vocals. Not exceptional, though. I wish the acoustic set had better audio quality. It improves, later, fortunately.
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Subject: The play 35 songs
Subject: The play 35 songs
one of the longest shows ever. They play so many songs. You can take this to a desert island and have 10% of all the songs they have ever played. Why
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am I giving this a 1? I don't know. Bring down the average, maybe?
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Hraefn
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April 20, 2006
Subject: Incredible time, incredible show
Subject: Incredible time, incredible show
My first Dead show on acid, front row, fifteen years old. I still have dreams about this show, which is really quite a blessing. My memories are of crazy
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colors, bizarre hallucinations, and incredibly soulful tunes. Although it was not technically my first show, I still actually consider it to be. It was awesome!
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Enlightened Deadhead
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April 3, 2006
Subject: Dead Set/Reckoning
Subject: Dead Set/Reckoning
Acoustic set is a little like tin. The Electric shines well with pretty dern stellar versions of a lot of classic tunes, including a great second set.
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This year is interesting for it being the middle of the dead, the mean, mode, and the median. Garcia's guitar and emotion are outstanding. The band doesn't rush, they just let the songs flow out. Can you imagine a 15 night run of the Dead at the Warfield? Sounds like pure heaven even bordering on overindulgence.
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DEADBUCK
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October 14, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Maine bound
Subject: Maine bound
I am leaving for ME tonight and cant wait to spend the six hours starting off with this for my head. I am sampling it now and cant wait to get the whole
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show in.... I just dont know what I will do tomorrow for an encore...lol...This does sound great and may just be what your doctor prescribes...what a mindbender this would have been in the front row...to all of you...IM jealous!Congratulations. 4.97 stars
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hyperboy
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October 7, 2005
Subject: HOLY MOLY!!!!!!!
Subject: HOLY MOLY!!!!!!!
What a MONSTER setlist!! I have never seen a setlist quite like this. There are so many "2nd setters" here it's almost ridiculous! 5 stars for both
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setlist and performance....but the last two tunes are not from the same source. Too bad b/c I can tell US Blues is killer!
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capn doubledose
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July 27, 2005
Subject: Gets better as it picks up steam
Subject: Gets better as it picks up steam
This is a sizzler folks - check out the hottest US Blues ever right here... Dew is superb, in fact the whole Set II is great. Go get it.
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Dedik8d
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July 17, 2005
Subject: This was a magical night
Subject: This was a magical night
The 15th night of nearly consecutive shows at the Warfield. It was my birthday and I had a front row ticket. The theater was amazingly decorated by Bill
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Graham and was incredible. I made it to 5 of the 15 shows. They energy in the place on the 15th night was magical and intense. A few drops of the right potion and it was perfect and fun, and people just being ecstatic with the friends and music they loved so much.
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gd4ever
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July 4, 2005 (edited)
Subject: never mind
Subject: never mind
please ignore/delete - I typed the wrong thing
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birdsgosouth
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June 1, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Ahhh....thisn
Subject: Ahhh....thisn
I remember many moons ago seeing this setlist in deadbase and thinking that this was an absolute killer. the setlist is totally outrageous, esp. for 1980,
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which is not terribly varied.
This show let me down though. It seems like they are kind of on autopilot until they hit morning dew, which is pretty great. Is it me?? I've listened to the entire show a couple of times, this board sounds great, I'm just not hearing a ripping show here. It's not bad, I'll give it a 4 for the ridiculous setlist.
Is this the show where everyone toasts the band at the end of the show? Sounds like it from the Bob & Jer comments before US Blues (which is dang decent AUD - maybe someone could post the entire electric set in this format???)
This show let me down though. It seems like they are kind of on autopilot until they hit morning dew, which is pretty great. Is it me?? I've listened to the entire show a couple of times, this board sounds great, I'm just not hearing a ripping show here. It's not bad, I'll give it a 4 for the ridiculous setlist.
Is this the show where everyone toasts the band at the end of the show? Sounds like it from the Bob & Jer comments before US Blues (which is dang decent AUD - maybe someone could post the entire electric set in this format???)
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May 25, 2005
Subject: 5 Stars
Subject: 5 Stars
The soundboard part sounds awesome. I'm waiting for the rest of the show to be posted with this quality.
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StrawRider
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April 26, 2005
Subject: Five Skulls for 10-14-80 Electric Set
Subject: Five Skulls for 10-14-80 Electric Set
This is my favorite electric Warfield set available here at the Archive. A fine companion to the ever-so regretably commercial Dead Set. The sound and
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the set list are outstanding. This show and the one from the Fox Theater on 11-30 are my two top choices for 1980. Both have incredible Scarlet-Fires.
For the acoustic sets, I went from 10-2 to 10-13 and pieced together a Reckoning companion as well. You also can find some good shows in Radio City, NY for this time period but this Warfield show stands above those that are available here,IMHO.
I also recommend 5-16 from Nassau for another killer Dew and try out Oakland's 12-28 NYE warmup show.
For the acoustic sets, I went from 10-2 to 10-13 and pieced together a Reckoning companion as well. You also can find some good shows in Radio City, NY for this time period but this Warfield show stands above those that are available here,IMHO.
I also recommend 5-16 from Nassau for another killer Dew and try out Oakland's 12-28 NYE warmup show.
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brendanmcauley
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March 29, 2005
Subject: Rare DEW!
Subject: Rare DEW!
Thi sshow is the real deal. The sound quality is great but I use one show as the ultimate in sound quality and that is 11.8.79 right here in the archive.
Thsi ... DEW is very rare. It was the last and 4rth of 1980 and the first sicne 11.8.79- the only of 1979. The previous to that was 4.15.78. So thsi was the 6th DEW in over 3 years.
This version is very kind.. see for your self.
Also, love that scarlert fire. The jam is soo spacey and long. It justw hat I was looking for.
Check out 11.8.79./ You will se that the NFA>DEW is the best quality ever! And the first dew in 19 months.
This show gets 4 stars.
Thsi ... DEW is very rare. It was the last and 4rth of 1980 and the first sicne 11.8.79- the only of 1979. The previous to that was 4.15.78. So thsi was the 6th DEW in over 3 years.
This version is very kind.. see for your self.
Also, love that scarlert fire. The jam is soo spacey and long. It justw hat I was looking for.
Check out 11.8.79./ You will se that the NFA>DEW is the best quality ever! And the first dew in 19 months.
This show gets 4 stars.
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pnc
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January 11, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Don't Pass This Up
Subject: Don't Pass This Up
The quality of the acoustic set sucks, but the SBD of the 2nd and 3rd sets are about the best quality recordings I've found on The Archive...very nice
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levels, almost no hiss at all...just sweet to listen to. Thank you!!!
The Estimated>Terrapin is sick...
The Estimated>Terrapin is sick...
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Crazy Fingers
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August 26, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Finally
Subject: Finally
I've been waiting for this one for a LONG time. One look at the songlist will tell you why you should spend the time to acquire this show. And this SBD
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sounds pretty crisp. I haven't listened to the AUD acoustic set yet, but the electric sets are where the real fireworks are anyway.
One minor quibble: This must have been tracked for 74 minute discs. The last two songs of the first electric set are tracked for the start of disc 3. So even though the whole first set will fit on an 80 minute disc, there is a tiny gap between the end of 'Let it Grow' and the beginning of 'The Wheel'. Nothing earth-shattering, but it is somewhat distracting and a little annoying.
Other than that, this is a great addition to the archive.
One minor quibble: This must have been tracked for 74 minute discs. The last two songs of the first electric set are tracked for the start of disc 3. So even though the whole first set will fit on an 80 minute disc, there is a tiny gap between the end of 'Let it Grow' and the beginning of 'The Wheel'. Nothing earth-shattering, but it is somewhat distracting and a little annoying.
Other than that, this is a great addition to the archive.
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